Dear Bernd,Since it is Moso you bought then there is a reasonably good chance that your seeds are in fact Moso because this is a species so widely grown that there are always some groves in flowering somewhere and they are always available through Chinese seed companies. I believe this is true of D. strictus in India as well. It would be very foolish of a seed dealer to ever supply substitutes for either of these two species. Also, it should be easy enough to verify the identity of your Moso seedlings. Young Moso culms, even those of small plants, are covered in a soft layer of tiny hairs (pubescence) that are white or silvery and very soft on young culms. This layer of pubescence becomes more course as the culm matures and the hairs harden. It can also wear off with age and the older culms become smooth . I don't know of any other bamboo that has this feature. The Phyllostachys genus is easy enough to distinguish as well. They have two branches at the nodes, one larger than the other and a groove in the culm below the branch complement.
I hope this helps you.
Regards
Hans
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From: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agrobambu/bamboofount
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2010 6:43 AM
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] bamboo from seeds
Hi Roy & Hans and others
I would be happy if my seeds are really what I bought (Moso) and what they seem. Besides I'm skeptical incredulity as to the names of bamboos and the IDs that I often have. In this case, Moso seeds, which I got from Germany, I'm "almost certain" that they spoke the truth. This seeds were planted in April 2007 and are already sprouting in the third generation now, I can already compare the shoots that are coming out with the other Phyllostachys I have in my collection. I shoot pictures of P.nigra and P.nigra Henon and P.bambusoides and the P.aurea. I received these(Moso), comparing the photos of your buds are of different format with each other and are similar to those of other Moso shoots I have seen on the web.
As for Dendrocalamus and other species have not yet experienced yet.
But I find interesting the following: If you are not looking for a specific species (as is my case that I am a collector) any kind that I have not in my collection that comes will be welcome, even if it is wrong! But .. really its important to have credentials!
I agree in all respects with what Robert said that the ideal is to get the plant alive, because it already carries with it the entire history and its characteristics are visible, either clone or even from seed. The time it takes to get a mature plant from a seed is something almost daunting.
Roy, unfortunately on my visit to your collection, last June, had no time to argue about the seeds. This is a subject I would like to talk and to share some doubts as to you puts up. I also share an interest in purchasing seed of other species that have security risk since they will germinate. We can talk about this later.
Of the 120 seeds (Moso) that got about 60 germinated( 4 kinds of substracts), approximately 30 of these could be transplanted to larger pots and grown (1 year) and of these only 17 could lead to ground. But a number of factors contributed to this failure, including my inexperience with seeds and other weather problems, topographic and soil here in Rio Grande do Sul state/ Brazil.
Today these plants are over 2 m height and putting 8 to 12 buds on each plant to spread. I hope they are really Moso. As I said they have all caracteristicst of Moso compared with the others Phyllostachys related, but I need some years more to be absolutely sure.
Below the contact with my supplier from of this specific seeds:
Mr.Bernd Bordne - (I did some personal contact with him by mail, before to buy the seeds) Im Kantelacker - D-64646 -Heppenheim - Deutschland Web site - http;//www.exotic-plants.de
Or:
Bernd Bordne
1, Scarteen South
6570 Knysna
Südafrika
Ene
Agrobambu CF&T
Visite nosso website em:
http://www.bamboofount.com.br
On Qua 22/09/10 10:50 , Roy Rogers JROGERS3@TAMPABAY.RR.COM sent:
>From: agrobambu/bamboofount
>Hi Roy
> Yes I do. I bought in 2007 a batch of 120 seeds from a supplier at >the Internet (Germany) and today they are over 2 meters tall in three >years. This time is the period of sprouting and each clump (now 12) >who are already sprawled put 60-10 new shoots with a diameter >slightly smaller than an inch. Lucky? I will find the supplier link >to send you.
> Ene
>Agrobambu CF&T
> Visit our website at:
>http://www.bamboofount.com.br [1]
And what variety of bamboo do you have that grew from these 120 bamboos from Germany?
All the people I know who have brought bamboo seeds over the Internet (and almost all from Germany) have bamboo seedling that look like D.
strictus.
And even if you had a bamboo plant flower, say a black culmed variety, the chances of the new seedling being black is about 99.99999 percent chance that it won¹t be black, but instead it would be green and never turn black.
Roy
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