Thursday, December 4, 2008

Re: [bamboo-plantations] Re: Bamboo facts on floors and furniture!

Gigantis Bamboo plantation Moderator's Comment: This is an interesting thread, which relates directly to bamboo plantations. It is also relevant to climate change and the tendancy of commerce to correctly or otherwise emphasise the "green" properties of various materials. The topic is at least controversial, and can be expected to elicit a variety of differing opinions, all of which can contribute to the debate. However, there exists the danger that passionately-expressed views might offend some members - especially those who do not share the same first language. It is therefore requested that members consider the wording of posts and ensure that all views are presented in neutral language before submitting them to BP. The best to all members ... Geoff Kyle, BP Moderator.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daphne Lewis" <
daphne@dogscooter.com>


On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:45 AM, TD DUONG wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Independent study by the institution which is not involve with any
> commercial bamboo industry. I still don¢t like the idea of shipping
> the bamboo half way cross the world by burning oil, and then calling
> it is green.
Container ships are very fuel efficient compared to any other transport.
*****Isn't the question not about "efficiency" (a relative value) but
instead abot NOT using energy except as a last resort?
Much work is "more efficient" but still not in the least way "green".


> Cheap (slave) labor plus all the pollution and high energy
> consumption during the manufacturing in any third world land is
> those hidden no green things that they don¢t want the consumers here
> to know about it.
The factory in Vietnam belonging to Bamboo Technologies pays more than
average daily wage.
*****This is only one example.

> By the way, those bamboo houses that imported from Vietnam to Hawaii
> does not look much different from the regular style stick houses,
> just few overprice bamboo posts and decorative rails outside the
> overhang roof with hidden metal brackets are not enough to call it a
> bamboo house, They are bunch of stud wall houses with expensive glue
> on bamboo planks or woven mats.
Not true. The houses are built with tre gai and tam vong bamboo.
****All of them?


> So 90% frame works of a so called bamboo house are still studs,
> beams, posts and plywood, which are still shipped from mainland US,
> because they are cheaper and more engineering control than those
> bamboo across the ocean, and then please do not call them the bamboo
> house. Please wait until bamboo is grown locally.
The factory does not import plywood and studs from the US. Get a grip!
***Telling someone to "get a grip" is both derogatory and disrespectful
and also contributes no useful information to support your point of
view.


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